Dateline July 31, in The Year of our Lord 2023 Voddie Baucham joined Ben Shapiro on his Daily Wire Sunday show and it was worth the whole 47 minutes (more if you have DW+). I suggest you watch the whole thing. About 28 minutes in, they address wokeness in Christendom and why so many Christian ministries start to compromise in small ways, and then eventually bigger ways. Voddie covers patriarchy, racism, and those aspects of Woke that infect Christian institutions slowly. And later, at about 38 minutes in, Shapiro makes a great point about what it means to take the Lord's name in vain. Baucham makes a good argument about confronting the lies late in the interview, claiming that the shame put upon Christians for being too political is really a one-sided ploy by the left to dominate the discussion. We have work to do in the Kingdom, but part of it is to reject "neo-Marxism" in all its forms, even under cultural pressure from soft-headed Christians. At 45 minutes in, Voddie unashamedly describes the outcomes of the leftist presuppositions as "a disaster" and goes on to promote the greatness of Western civilization.